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angrywhiteguy
Number of posts : 543 Age : 33 Location : Shitty town in the state of Washington Registration date : 2009-01-10
| Subject: Fucking Calculus... Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:47 pm | |
| Any of you guys know anything about calculus? I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out logistic growth models- among other things.
inb4NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS! | |
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Catduck
Number of posts : 30 Age : 33 Registration date : 2009-02-20
| Subject: Re: Fucking Calculus... Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:02 pm | |
| http://lmgtfy.com/?q=logistic+growth+models | |
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Damuna
Number of posts : 181 Age : 94 Location : Britland Registration date : 2009-02-02
| Subject: Re: Fucking Calculus... Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:20 pm | |
| - angrywhiteguy wrote:
- Any of you guys know anything about calculus? I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out logistic growth models- among other things.
inb4NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS! Lrn2maffs. | |
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angrywhiteguy
Number of posts : 543 Age : 33 Location : Shitty town in the state of Washington Registration date : 2009-01-10
| Subject: Re: Fucking Calculus... Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:27 pm | |
| Fucking fail you guys. Don't you think I wouldn't have already tried Google? It isn't explaining things for me any better than my text book. And I thought it was already pretty obvious that I'm trying to "lrn2maffs." | |
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Greg
Number of posts : 137 Registration date : 2009-03-03
| Subject: Re: Fucking Calculus... Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:06 pm | |
| Uh, Calculus. I can totally do your calculus. Sort of. Kinda. Maybe. Not at all. But seriously, don't bother asking Catduck for help. He'll get the right answer for you, but he won't tell you how he arrived at that answer. | |
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angrywhiteguy
Number of posts : 543 Age : 33 Location : Shitty town in the state of Washington Registration date : 2009-01-10
| Subject: Re: Fucking Calculus... Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:32 pm | |
| I think it was something to do with the form:
dP/dt=k/M*P(M-P) | |
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angrywhiteguy
Number of posts : 543 Age : 33 Location : Shitty town in the state of Washington Registration date : 2009-01-10
| Subject: Re: Fucking Calculus... Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:16 am | |
| AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: dP/dt=k/M*P(M-P) AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: logistic growth AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: cant make heads or tails of the problems using it The Beard: is that k divided by MP all times (M-P) The Beard: or is the (M-P) on the bottom? AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: k/M times P(M-P) The Beard: gotcha The Beard: okay, what are the set variables in the problem? AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: natural log comes in somewhere usually AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: oh uh AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: p? AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: idk what set variable is, is that the one that isnt a constant? The Beard: like which variables did they set values for The Beard: like in the problem, p = whatever AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: heres an example they use AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: dP/dt= 0.001p(100-p) AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: p(0)=10 AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: the answer is p= 100/ (1+9e^-0.1t) AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: they show some steps, but idk where they get them from The Beard: hm The Beard: since they've got dP/dt, i assume they integrate somewhere AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: i try to copy the steps directly, but cant figure what goes where AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: yeah AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: "with respect to t" The Beard: gah, math books are always retarded The Beard: they show you how do get from step A to step B AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: yes The Beard: and the problems ask you to get to step E or F AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: ill show you the step where they integrate AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: ln |p| - ln |100-p| = 0.1t + C The Beard: that's the result? AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: of integration? yes The Beard: hm AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: theres 3 or 4 steps between The Beard: ln | x | is the integral of 1/x AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: this is true The Beard: so can assume that at some point they have 1/p and 1/100-p AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: damnit i should just scan the fuckin page The Beard: hehe AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: this is b4 they integrate AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: (1/p + 1/(100-p))dp/dt = 0.1 AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: do i need to tell all the steps? The Beard: okay, let me think how they got that The Beard: from .001p(100-p) AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: they had to use "partial fractions" to get there The Beard: oy gevalt, those bastards AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: yes AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: idk how the fuck they do it AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: but i managed to get that far The Beard: hrm AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: had test yesterday with this AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: half the kids just sat there the whole period The Beard: well .001p(100-p) = .1(1/100)(p)(100-p The Beard: ) AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: he lets us finish the next days AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: but The Beard: so (p)(100-p) The Beard: ------- The Beard: 100 The Beard: that'd be (100p-p^2)/100 The Beard: which is (100p/100)-(p^2/100) The Beard: which is p - (p^2/100) AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: hmm AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: i think this may be getting jumbled The Beard: perhaps AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: lol The Beard: but i think (p)(100-p)/100 is where to start AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: XD you may be taking it backwards The Beard: probably lol AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: shouldve just typed more The Beard: go back in time and kill isaac newton The Beard: he invented calculus The Beard: let some other schmuck find gravity again
More math fail, but at least we're trying... | |
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angrywhiteguy
Number of posts : 543 Age : 33 Location : Shitty town in the state of Washington Registration date : 2009-01-10
| Subject: Re: Fucking Calculus... Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:41 am | |
| Little more
The Beard: k, formula is Dp/dt = .001(p)(100-p), right? AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: ._. i think its amazing how anyone can hold these problems in their head, i cant focus unless i look right at it AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: uh The Beard: heh AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: /checks The Beard: well that's me The Beard: i remember stuff that will never help me personally AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: you remember right The Beard: cookie The Beard: anyways The Beard: if you divide (p)(p-100) over to the other side The Beard: you get 1/((p)(p-100)) dP/dt = .001 AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: thats the next step The Beard: you can integrate the left by parts AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: you know what youre doing The Beard: well that makes me feel better about having my calc final in a week AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: but AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: when i integrate by parts, it gets too messy to go further AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: is there some trick to this? The Beard: umm The Beard: cursing Newton to the depths of hell doesn't really move the problem along The Beard: but it helps psychologically AWG needs to STFU and gb2 work: NEWTON | |
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xexes
Number of posts : 29 Age : 114 Location : USA Registration date : 2009-01-19
| Subject: Re: Fucking Calculus... Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:16 am | |
| Google: Automatic Calculus Solutions. Lern 2 useh ur interwebz. | |
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